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The exhibition Migration
Areas brings together two artists, Raymonde April
and Michèle Waquant, whose artistic and personal
journeys have crossed for more than thirty years.
Chantal Boulanger. I wonder
how your collaboration modulated your ideas in elaborating
a common project. In this exhibition, you don’t
create joint works, of course, but you have used already
existing images to create relationships which suggest
unexpected similarities between your artistic practices.
Can you describe your selection process?
Raymonde April. In this kind of common
project, the components become connected while also
remaining autonomous; properly speaking, no fusion takes
place. We began thinking about the project during the
summer of 2003 in Quebec, and then in February 2004
Michèle came to see me in New York where I was
in residence for six months. This was when we really
began working on the project. Michèle was familiar
with my exploring of my archives, which I have been
doing for nearly ten years: the film Tout embrasser
and the video on my father, out of which a book
was produced, Soleils couchants. We thought
about the connections in our lives and our work. We
had both arrived at that stage of our career where,
after having accumulated, collected, and classified,
we were looking at the images we had already created
and we were concerned not to let pass the moment to
look retrospectively at our work so that we would avoid
repeating ourselves. The mass of images we have accumulated
is very rich, but it also carries a weight. You have
to take stock and be able to stop and look at what you
have already done.
Michèle Waquant. We wanted to
see how our images might co-exist in this sort of dialogue...
We wanted them to speak to each other and bear witness
to our individual journeys but also to our thirty-year
friendship. We tried to find moments when our paths
crossed and moments when they separated. And we agreed
to focus our energy on the photography and video that
we both practice, in order to realize how this work
was gradually structured and established, in each of
our lives and in our art.
To make our two journeys apparent, we had the intuition
of a geographical and historical cartography. And as
we progressed, this proposition increasingly focused
on the idea of the river. [...] It’s not a metaphor,
but rather a geographical fact upon which the idea of
journey and direction is superimposed. A river has an
upstream and a downstream. It starts at the source and
flows to the sea; it has an inherent idea of direction.
And taking into account all the tributaries that make
it grow in size, if we expand this idea, it carries
the weight of the past and moves toward the future.
It’s so close to an artist’s journey that
this is where we found the common ground for our two-person
show.
[...] Following this story of the river, we arrived
at the idea of cartography to bring into focus the form
of the exhibition. We wanted to place two parallel life
lines on the walls of the gallery, one on top of the
other, like two currents encircling the space, with
places where the lines would meet and vertical extensions
of more personal developments. These two horizontals
would be intersected by large images taken from our
respective personal collections, like privileged moments
when an idea crystallizes and acquires the status of
a work of art. We wanted these large images to be joined
in such a way that they spoke to each other. Fonds photographique
attests to our methods for creating images and the exhibition
reveals this. [...]
C.B. How did you move
from the idea of geography to that of genealogy, which
is not self-evident? I admit this was something in your
proposal that startled me. Is it possible to say that
geography, when it is subjected to history, also implies
a return to the past?
R.A. In reflecting on the origin of
our images, we began to search the personal side of
our histories. Undoubtedly, because Michèle had
just begun to go through a large collection of family
letters and pictures, the idea of genealogy quickly
arose, and we naturally added this dimension to our
exploration, to this journey upstream from our present-day
work in order to put it into perspective. This is how
we had the idea for Albums made up of family photos.
[...]
M.W. Albums is an extension
of Fonds, a consequence of the very form we
had imagined. After a while, more and more historically
remote elements resurface. For example, the collection
of family pictures that I became keeper of after my
mother’s death became important to me at that
moment because I was engaged in this kind of undertaking.
All those images that constructed me without my realizing
it released in me a movement of acknowledgement, and
I felt the need to find a form for them.
C.B. [...] the exhibition
has its own proper form, one that must be addressed
but whose central element is not easily characterized.
The question of time, of temporality, seems to me to
be one way that we might bring together all the components
of the overall project. Does this reworking of your
archives lead to this kind of analysis of your previous
works?
R.A. Even though I was already individually
engaged in this process, this exhibition forces me into
a repositioning and proposes an adventure. In what is
presented here, our double itinerary is continually
redivided and becomes more complex as it takes stock
of both the near and distant past, with personal pictures
and found photos. It is a never-ending branching off,
like in family photo albums where there is a paternal
side and a maternal side, and for Michèle, the
dual belonging to France and Quebec. The constant presence
of the dual and its subdivisions fascinates me. The
question of time, if predominant, is never of a unidirectional
time. They are simultaneities within which the landscape
is constantly changing, moving, and being reconstituted
into possible and fluctuating directions. [...]
Excerpts from “Looking Back on a Conversation”,
an interview with Raymonde April and Michèle
Waquant by Chantal Boulanger, in Migration Areas,
Quimper and Montreal: Le Quartier, centre d’art
contemporain de Quimper, and VOX, centre de l’image
contemporaine, 2005. A DVD accompanies the publication.
Migration Areas was also presented at Le Quartier,
centre d’art contemporain de Quimper from January
29 to March 27, 2005, and at the Centre d’exposition
de Baie-Saint-Paul from April 16 to September 11, 2005.
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